
PERSPECTIVES
from the Class of 2009
Sometimes, we think it will be a fast, seamless journey to our goals.
Life usually has other plans for our career development. Here are a few stories from
the Class of 2009, to demonstrate how sometimes a more scenic (and surprising) route
can lead to professional fulfillment.
Brooke L Sager
Studied: English, concentration in creative writing
Now: Freelance Copywriter / Contributing Editorial Writer
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
I am a freelance writer who often works mostly remote and has many clients. While
most people report to the office 9-5, I report to my home office desk and make my
own hours. I love the freedom and having the chance to tackle multiple projects at
once—sometimes I'm writing an article about wine, sometimes I'm writing micro UX copy
for a healthcare app, and sometimes I'm writing marketing press releases for a makeup
company. Having Skidmore College on your resume goes a long way—I've actually had
people in interviews say to me "wow, that's impressive" and "ok, you must be smart!"
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
As a contractor and freelancer, the thought of not having typical job security is
not for everyone. You're always wondering "what's next?" when your contract is up.
Thus, I always have a backup plan; even when I have a 40-hour a week client, I keep
my other clients happy and do one-off articles on weekends. This way, I am constantly
in their front-of-mind if they need some help. This has proved to be helpful during
this pandemic, where everyone's job security is up in the air. Keeping my side hustle
has saved me. Some clients are slashing budgets, so I've been constantly reaching
out to editors and clients I've worked with prior and going through my virtual rolodex.
In this industry, you grow a thick skin and get used to the word "no," so I just keep
trying.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
The great thing about being a professional at writing and editing is someone, somewhere
is always going to want your input. Stories always must be told! If you decide to
work full time as a writer somewhere, consider keeping your side hustle too—even if
it's just one or two short projects a month. In times I have lost my full-time job,
having a few clients I could reach out to and do one-off projects and articles for
has saved me while I looked for more work. That said, don't bite off more than you
can chew. I have made that mistake before, and it's very overwhelming. If you have
too much work, be transparent with your clients and ask for a deadline that works
with you UP FRONT (not after time has passed and your work is late). Trust, they will
appreciate your honesty. Don't fear rejection—that's part of the industry, and in
some ways, it can be helpful if you use the feedback to move forward. Keep pitching
and keep trying! Don't burn bridges!!! It's a smaller industry/world than you think...
If you have the chance to go to a networking event or a publicist/client wants to
meet for coffee, GO! Meeting people face-to-face shows you are putting in the effort
and they will remember you down the road for opportunities. Also, always keep your
resume, professional website/blog, and LinkedIn completely up to date. You never know
when the perfect opportunity needs to be filled ASAP. Have recruiters looking out
for you as well—I personally work with at least 3 regularly.
Krista Ziegler
Studied: Religious Studies and Philosophy
Now: Program Manager, Sandbox VR
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
All of it has been non-linear. If you don't go into a trade or something super specialized,
your path will also probably be non-linear. That's because our economy is wack and
has been for a long time. But it also means if you enjoy changes of pace, as I do,
you will have some freedom to try new things. Not all employers will look at that
as a good thing, but it's the sign of a good place if they see your breadth as a positive.
Skidmore helped me with this, I think, because I was part of small, intense departments
where I had a lot of personal mentorship and development. It was my personal connection
to professors that helped me build the confidence to enter the job market boldly,
and oftentimes that pays off.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
As a recent graduate I was still young enough to feel invincible in some ways. I moved
to San Francisco and got a job in tech and was very happy there for a number of years.
I hate working in tech, I always have, and the more "tech" the more I hate it. However,
they were good paying jobs in fun cities and I didn't have the luxury of being picky.
My background in philosophy and analysis proved very helpful in a) having men in tech
take me seriously and b) honing my logical thinking for computer languages. The skills
I used most were the ones that taught me to find the parts of the job/company that
I liked and continue pursuing them, not unlike a liberal arts college experience.
By inching my way closer to the things that interested me instead of the things that
would most obviously help me get ahead (and in which I had no interest) I found cooler
and more fulfilling jobs. But then this virus hit and it's a reset button for my career
in some ways. That's ok, too. Capitalism would rather wring what little it can out
of you before discarding you; someone will hire you. That's another solid piece of
advice: really way more bills are negotiable than you think. In general, a lot of
things are negotiable if you just keep pushing. Credit card bills stacked up? Tell
them you can't and won't pay the full amount, they'll work with you to get ~something~
out of you and then leave you alone. To survive (assuming you don't have oodles of
family money, which you very well may, dear reader! If that's the case, please be
grateful and try not to fall in the trap of pretending you have it just as bad as
some of the other folks you know; you don't), but to survive you need to get scrappy.
Tell lots of people you're looking for work, tell them what you're interested in,
ask mutual connections to put you in touch with someone they know, be kind, be appreciative,
try to help others out when you can. Ask for help when you need it!
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
I'm sure "similar backgrounds" is meant to be taken in the academic sense, but if
you don't have a huge financial safety net, neither did I. It is really scary, and
to be perfectly honest this virus situation is nothing like the 2008 crash. But like
2008, and even moreso now, we're all in this together. Find the people who are kind
and supportive and nurture those relationships. Whether it's a job referral or a lead
on an apartment or anything else, your community will be the safety net you need even
if you don't have a financial one. Be active in your community, take care of them
and they will take care of you. Finally, the rules are all changing day to day. Don't
be afraid to take a risk. Bailamos: nothing is forbidden anymore.
Rachel Downes
Studied: Art History and Psychology
Now: a Director of Project Management
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
At Skidmore I was incredibly focused on working in the art world and started my career
in museums. While a student, I took advantage of a multitude of experiences to determine
what sector of art I wanted to go into (worked at the Tang, interned at the local
non-profit arts organization, started a program for Art students to exhibit on campus,
ran the arts review magazine, etc). I ended up working in museum collections for a
couple years then transitioned into art consulting and then decided to ultimately
break from art. I had been very focused and reached a point where I wasn't excited
about it or challenged in the way I wanted to be anymore. Building multidimensional
core skills such as an organizational aptitude, attention to detail, and creative
problem solving benefited me greatly to transition from being deep in the art world
to practically any industry. I hopped around in similar project manager/operations
manager roles across executive recruiting, a large law firm, a radio network, and
landed in advertising which brought me back to a somewhat creative environment that
I had missed. I think more than the skills, the ability to adapt and pivot seamlessly
has been at the root of my ability to change paths so much
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Creativity and adaptability. I haven't had a strong direction in my career since leaving
the art world but I have understood more about the core functions of a job that I
enjoy. I've researched industries and jobs and made a point to seek out conversations
with people along the way to determine if certain industries might be a good fit.
Taking initiative and being willing to probe and gather information as a part of the
process is key to growing your network and building a foundation for your path.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
Try to look for the secondary and tertiary paths. It's easy to get tunnel vision when
you're focused on one goal but there are endless branches that surround that path
that could provide exciting and surprising opportunities to explore.
Kristen Leigh Martin
Studied: Management and Business Minor: Creative Writing English
Now: Treasury Analyst II, New Balance
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
I graduated in 2009 (similar economic environment to where we are now). There were
people who had years of experience in their field, who weren't able to find jobs.
It was hard to compete with the people who already had the experience. I started as
a Contract hire in Banking. I was able to transition my career from banking into an
Accounting role, and then into a Finance role. The Finance role was where I eventually
wanted to end up. I had to take any job that I could get, and use Creative Thought,
to slowly pivot and build my skill set for the job that I eventually wanted to have.
It took a few years and a few jobs, but in uncertain times you need to rely on Creative
Thought and "outside the box" thinking to get yourself where you want to be.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Before and after graduation, I heavily relied on Skidmore Career Services! I attended
the Career Services 'satellite nights'. Career Service set up a career fair in Boston,
and had staff from school at these events to help with resumes and networking. These
were great ways to meet and network with fellow alum's. I thought that career services
was something that I would really only use while I was at Skidmore, but have found
myself using their services more post graduation.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
Start by Building a Network! Connect with your friends on LinkedIn, find other alum's
via LinkedIn, send them messages and ask to speak with them via phone (or grab a coffee).
After the phone call, follow up! It's really important to stay top of mind when using
your network to help find a first job. In my case, I did not land my dream job at
the beginning. I was a Contract Hire. It's hard to put in 4 years of hard work at
Skidmore and graduate just to get a Contract job, but sometimes just getting your
foot in the door is a win!
Jason Sherwin
Studied: Management and Business and International Affairs
Now: Director of Strategic Partnerships, Healthcare at CLEAR
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
I stayed at the same company (NYU Langone Health) for 10 years, but I was constantly
looking for the next opportunity internally. I was always thinking about the next
step to identify new opportunities. As a result, I worked in 4 different roles in
my time there. Never get comfortable - you need to advocate for yourself to find the
next opportunity. Things often don't come to you, you need to take them! - I was able
to get my MBA fully paid for, and completed my MBA on a part-time basis.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Networking. When you ask someone for 30-60 minutes they'll almost certainly give it
to you. People crave helping others, all you need to do is reach out. Leverage your
Skidmore network, even if it requires a lot of "cold" reach-outs. My first job came
as a result of a fellow Skidmore alum giving me time for an informational interview,
and he subsequently referred me to Human Resources which helped me begin my path.
- Continuing to network even when I was comfortable in my role. Build your network
now, and it will reap rewards going forward. - Critical thinking skills. It sounds
simple, but Skidmore taught me to approach problems in ways that other institutions
don't. Use that to your advantage. - Pay it forward. Help others and they will be
more likely to go out on a limb for you in the future.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
Network network network! - Business skills are highly sought after in healthcare.
You don't need to be a doctor, an engineer with coding skills, etc. Healthcare companies
- whether they be health systems, insurance companies, digital health companies -
will value your critical thinking and communication skills that you developed at Skidmore.
- Invest in yourself by considering grad school. MBA, MPH, MPA are the most sought
after in healthcare.
Vanessa Weber
Studied: English
Now: Recruiter, Real Estate & Construction
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
I became a recruiter last year, focusing specifically on real estate and construction
placements, thanks to a dear friend who made the case for my transition. I love it
because I've connected with interesting, purpose-driven, engaged people, which in
turn gives me energy and drive. It reminds me very much of the feeling I used to get
when I interviewed students and faculty for my SkidNews articles. The presentations
I put together for my candidates are mini articles that share their stories, no unlike
the faculty Q&A or student human interest stories I used to write. The question I
seem to get asked a lot these days is: how can I make myself more relevant in today's
economy? The answer is, you can't. Unless you are also an MD, or can drive an ambulance,
or otherwise offer your services in health care, I would suggest learning to garden...
These are nutty times and the biggest mistake we can make is in thinking that we are
not valuable. We certainly are, it's our unforgiving capitalist economy that needs
to go.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Not having the wherewithal to invest heavily in pharmaceuticals, or consumer staples,
and not having a robust garden and farm to eat from (a la Martha Stewart) so as to
avoid grocery store outings, I don't actually believe there are any secret troves
of knowledge or special skills anyone can use to navigate these times. The solace
I'm finding is similar to how many people are coping: cooking, reading, talking with
family and friends... That said, I think there are certain "tricks" and tips one can
do to add levity to their personal spaces: cleaning and clearing clutter, re-organizing
your room for fresh perspective, re-growing scallions on your windowsill because it's
satisfying to watch them sprout... All these fun tips can be learned online. It just
takes will and a little energy.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
When I graduated school, while it was during one of the worst recessions of our time,
I was sure I would easily craft a robust career because I was a smart, educated woman.
Not so. Most of my jobs have been the result of chance and network. Keep as many friends
around as possible! If I could re-do my life, I would have continued to pursue a BA
in English (because I loved it so much), learned to love math at the same time, gone
straight to grad school for a masters in real estate finance, and tried to find a
job as an acquisitions analyst for a real estate investment management firm. This
is just one example of a traditional career path that seems to bear fruit, but I've
found that, through recruiting, the people who are superficially successful (making
real money, can afford to buy an apartment in the city, etc) are those who were groomed
into a plan and followed each step to the T. These people are pedigreed, speak beautifully,
are confident, and super sharp. The liberal artists I know, the ones who were allowed
to explore their own interests without a business plan like myself, are less financially
sound. While the virus is seemingly halting every market sector excepting consumer
staples and logistics, people who are in charge of investments in finance are still
doing just fine. I wonder if the virus will actually affect real change?
Olivia Duong
Studied: Chemistry
Now: Criminalist III / NYPD Police Laboratory
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
I started out with an interest in art history and art conservation. Took chemistry
courses and decided to jump into chemistry major.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
My work at the forensic laboratory is considered "essential" do to our role in public
safety.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
Continue to advance yourself and gain skills. The world of science is quite varied
and broad in career paths. Most of the chemistry jobs are not necessarily "wet" chemistry
bench work.
Evan Pasha
Studied: Exercise Science (now Health and Human Physiological Sciences)
Now: Community Medical Liaison, Syneos Health
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
Before having any intuition on what I was interested in majoring in, Skidmore afforded
me the freedom take a breadth of courses. When the deadline to declare a major finally
approached, I simply chose the major in which I had taken the most courses. The Exercise
Science degree opened avenues to independent learning and sparked interest in clinical
research in humans. These experiences formed my path to my first job as a research
technician, where I built upon my passions for science, research, and health. After
a few productive years, I realized I needed to take a step back and went to school
to purse graduate training in Austin, TX where I earned my Masters and PhD. During
this time, I not only studied hard, but also learned about what felt like a completely
different culture down south. Being a student for 5 more years in a fun city didn't
feel a lot like progress at times, but getting letters behind my name changed my earning
ceiling with this degree type for the rest of my life. This lead to staying in Texas
for a post-doc with the intent of becoming a university professor and conducting clinical
research. Instead, I transitioned to a role in industry where I apply everything I
learned from my academic training to help doctors navigate clinical trial data. Growth
is not always linear. Sometimes you need to take a break, or return to school, or
change industries. So long as you're in pursuit of happiness with a clear purpose,
which may even involve smelling the roses), it is a good path.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Navigating graduate school on the cheap was a challenge. Having support from family
is the ideal situation which I was able to benefit from. However, being resourceful
to uncover ways to make money while in school is critical. Resourceful in this case
was turning over every stone for academic scholarships, fellowships, teaching assistant
job opportunities, and even becoming a kick-boxing instructor (I know nothing about
kickboxing). There were also opportunities for tuition remission. While I was fortunate
to have the security of a familial safety net, I was able to fully fund my graduate
education and basically get paid to go to school. Further, I was able to pick up part-time
work to add to the bank. Any opportunities I could find to put money in my pocket
or keep money in my pocket, I took.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
When we enter into uncertain times individually as we do with graduation, it's easy
to hyper focus on the short term obstacles because of their pressing need. Square
one looks like, how do I afford.... anything? The good news is you have completed
exceptional training to address these immediate needs. What's important to keep in
mind is that the path of overcoming short term obstacles should fit into some general
long term path. You don't necessarily need to know what's at the end of that path,
but your direction should be to move forward. Be cognizant of those times you overcame
last minute deadlines, late nights in the library, spontaneous hangouts with friends,
that time you tried the random school club out for a day. Rely on yourself first and
foremost, because you are more powerful and capable than you think. Second, find yourself
a mentor to help guide you on your path. Going it alone is hard, but also not necessary.
Find someone you feel comfortable talking to who is willing to listen to your ideas.
This can be someone with similar professional goals, someone who is in a similar boat
as you, or someone who has achieved what you hope to someday. It's easy to dismiss
making these connections because you may not have a lot of experience and not a lot
to offer them in return, but you'd be surprised with how much other people are willing
to help. If one person doesn't work out, try someone else. I wouldn't be where I am
if I hadn't had mentors at each stage of my academic training and career. Be invested
in these relationships, meaning show up, and they will be exceptionally rewarding.
Lastly, work hard. Opportunity looks a lot like hard work. Corny, but true.
Ryan Bailey
Studied: Environmental Studies and Economics
Now: Project Developer, Borrego Solar Systems, Inc.
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
I knew I wanted to work in the environmental field, but the jobs I took to get where
I am today were all over the place. I started as a tennis instructor/ski bum in the
heart of the 2009 recession, then went to Americorps, where I worked in the conservation
field, then went to an environmental economics/analysis consulting firm, then back
to grad school before landing at my present position. That winding road, including
my season and a half as a ski bum, let me explore what my interests really were. While
I lost some time when compared to people who jumped right into renewable energy from
undergrad, it kept me employed through a recession, and let me sample lots of different
interests.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Aside from work specific skills, a liberal arts education helps. Compared with someone
with a a more technical undergrad degree, liberal arts degrees set you up with the
skills needed to navigate lots of different roles, and the ability to succeed in those
roles. I've realized liberal arts graduates are creative problem solvers. They look
critically at challenges, and don't just follow a script. Aside from that, Skidmore
set me up with just enough technical skills to secure an entry level job. Statistics,
economics, an understanding of environmental problems, and the ability to complete
research projects, were all key to landing my Americorp position and, subsequently,
my role at a consulting firm. More than anything, hard-work and a willingness to be
flexible are keys to growth. Your dream job today will be different than your dream
job a year from now.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
Graduating into a recession is scary, but it also creates lots of opportunity. The
traditional path might be closed for a bit, so this gives you a chance to explore
a passion. Maybe it is skiing (that was mine), or political organizing (there is an
election coming up!). Now's a good time to check those things out. It also reveals
the growing industries from those who might be in decline or stuck in a steady state.
One example comes to mind. Environmental non-profits or advocacy organizations, which
might be supported by donors, might be freezing hiring for the foreseeable future.
Alternatively, the renewable energy industry is still hiring. The amount of job postings
is one of the most reliable indicators of growth, and as a newly minted Skidmore graduate,
going to a place that is growing should be a high priority. Growth creates opportunity.
Good luck!
Kezia Chee
Studied: English
Now: Faculty-Led Program Coordinator for East Asia at CIS Abroad
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
I studied abroad in England during my junior year at Skidmore and I remember Skidmore
having a program that allowed students to teach English in China and was very interested
in pursuing similar opportunities. Travel has always been a big passion of mine, so
when I graduated in 2009, I spent the next 2 years touring with various bands and
musicians around the US and Canada. Doing this allowed me to see the breadth and depth
of my own country and inspired a larger curiosity about the world at large. This is
why in 2012, I decided to move abroad to South Korea to teach English as an ESL instructor.
I lived in Korea for 3 years total between 2012 and 2016, then moved to Australia
for a working holiday. I returned to the US in September of 2018 and began the search
for work in my home country, which I hadn't permanently lived in in 7 years. I was
lucky enough to be hired by a study abroad organization based in Northampton, Massachusetts,
where the skills I learned abroad directly informed my eligibility and value as a
potential employee.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Before living in Korea, I worked as a photographer for a local paper in the Berkshires,
my home county. I often had to photograph various people and events and was always
wracked with nervousness when I had to approach strangers to get their contact info
in order to write my photo captions. When I moved to Korea, I was confronted with
a significant language barrier in a country that was extremely different than my own,
and it taught me to communicate in a myriad of ways (never underestimate how much
a gesture can help!) and also forced me to become comfortable with the unknown. It
also taught me how to be adaptable and boosted my confidence tenfold. When I returned
to the US, being surrounded by English speakers felt like a cake walk, and it helped
me feel more confident in striking up conversations with those unfamiliar to me in
order to be as efficient as possible in the information I sought.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
While I realize the current pandemic precludes this for the time being, I highly encourage
current graduates to consider traveling as a way to grow and learn more about themselves
and their abilities. My experiences abroad made me a more valuable candidate in the
field of international education and genuinely enhanced my adaptability, confidence,
and knowledge of the world at large. If possible, I strongly encourage students to
consider travel opportunities outside of Europe or English-speaking countries such
Australia - while I have no doubt there is much to be learned by living in and experiencing
these countries, I truly believe it will pale in comparison to living in a country
that is 100% different than your own, such as Asia or Africa.
Meg Duncan
Studied: Exercise Science (now Health and Human Physiological Sciences) and Anthropology
Now: Youth & Collegiate Development Program Manager at USA Triathlon
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
After Skidmore, I moved out to Colorado to explore job opportunities. I had intended
to go to grad school but given the 2009 economic climate, I opted to try and get into
the workforce. I decided to take a low-pay job to be in a state that I was excited
to live. I saw paid internship opportunities through the United States Olympic and
Paralympic Committee and decided to apply for one in Sport Performance. It combined
my passion for research, working with athletes, and aspects of my degree. After the
internship, I was able to stay within the Olympic movement, working for a National
Governing Body, USA Triathlon. The diversity of my Skidmore education allowed me to
adapt and facilitate each role that I served and I now oversee youth development programming
which is something I didn't know I was passionate about until recently. I've been
able to combine my education and experience to bring certain skills to my job.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Adaptability. You might not land your dream job right now but taking jobs that have
components of what you're passionate about is key.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
Be patient! Having a low-pay job as well as a paid internship was not ideal after
graduating from Skidmore. However, learning how to do mundane tasks and challenging
projects is something that set me up for success in my career today.
Morgan Eisler
Studied: Psychology at Skidmore
Now: Founder, YESiSA LLC
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
I took time off my Junior year to find my purpose and returned to Skidmore with a
renewed sense of what I wanted to do with my life - teaching! For the past 10 years
I carved out a career in education and international development. I studied abroad
in Paris for my last semester at Skidmore, moved back to D.C. to begin a career in
education, then moved to Ghana in 2013 to start a career in international development.
Now I approach a new horizon by founding a company in sustainable fashion and giving
work as a solution to overcoming economic inequities. It is not something I had all
planned out, but I followed my intuition and it's become much more clear that I am
doing what I am supposed to do.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
I did not go into the professional field of psychology, however, it was very helpful
as an educator. Now I've realized that understanding human behavior is also really
important to business as well. I keep researching and learning more from working with
different people all over the world. People skills are the most important.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
Hustle, always be relentless in achieving your goals. Your dreams will come true,
just not always when you expect them too.
Jamie Falzone
Studied: Music and English
Now: Volunteer Coordinator, Alzheimer's Association and Administrative Director of
the MVMA Charities
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
After graduating in 2009, I moved back home with my parents and applied to - no exaggeration
- 75 jobs. All were entry-level and required little previous work experience. I had
done banquet serving at a local country club during summer breaks from college and
had also worked at the Skidmore Cafe for all four years and it was looking more and
more likely that the only position I had any chance of getting was as a barista. After
being rejected from all of the positions I had applied to, a position that paid $10/hour
plus benefits at a coffee shop wasn't looking too bad! About a week before interviewing
at Starbucks, I heard about WWOOF (World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms). I had
studied abroad in Milan, Italy during my junior year and was desperate to return to
Europe so instead of gearing up in the green apron and refining my latte-making skills,
I filled out the application and was matched with an organic farmer in central Italy
who produced wine and olive oil. It was hands-down the best decision I could have
made. The unique experience of living in a remote area and doing farm work all day
not only allowed me to meet some very interesting characters but it also set me apart
from other applicants when I returned home and started the job hunt again. I met people
from around the world, was able to travel more, and continued to hone my Italian language
skills. By the time I returned to the States, the economy had improved enough that
I was able to join the workforce. It helped that my Skidmore roommate from freshman
year was working at an organization that had an opening and she put in a good word
for me. That job led to every other career move I've made since then. Because of the
people I met at that first job, I found positions with my subsequent two employers.
What they say is true - it's all about who you know!
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
The number one thing I had to be was flexible. I thought it would be easy to find
a job after college. Skidmore is a great school and I had been a good student with
solid experience. As I continued to face rejection or worse, the dreaded lack of response
to my applications, I realized it wasn't going to be as easy as I'd hoped or planned.
I was very fortunate to have parents who were able and (I think!) happy to have me
back at home during this time. I had assumed that I'd be living in the city with friends
at age 22, working and dating and doing the things I'd always seen on TV and movies.
Instead, I lived the rather unglamorous life of waking up in a sleepy central MA town,
commuting 1.5+ hours roundtrip to work, and going home to a quiet night with my parents.
Don't get me wrong, I truly valued this time with my family and was also able to save
money on rent and utilities for when I finally was able to move out on my own. I know
I wouldn't have made it through this difficult time without the love and support of
my parents.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
I think the two most important things I learned from this difficult time were to take
risks and to not be afraid to lean on family and friends. I don't know what my path
would have been if I hadn't run away to Europe for a few months to escape the economic
downturn and learn new skills. I likely would have taken the barista job, the expected
choice, and missed out on the opportunity to try something completely unfamiliar.
I know that my career path would have definitely been different had I not kept in
touch with my Skidmore roommate and used the work connections she had to land that
first job. Because of her, I was able to find a field I love and in which I have thrived.
My life would have most assuredly been more difficult had I not had family who could
take me in and offer me support as I navigated entering the workforce and landing
on my own two feet. I would not have had the luxury of being able to take the risks
that led to this path. I know how hard it can be to ask for help but sometimes it's
just what you need to find yourself.
Hannah Harris
Studied: Environmental Studies
Now: Streamflow Protection Biologist, Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
After graduating from Skidmore, I took a temporary technician job working for a stream
ecology lab at Idaho State University where I am from. I realized I loved field work
but didn't want to be stuck behind a microscope all winter long. So I took a position
as am Americorps volunteer teaching environmental education the fall following graduation.
After a year teaching environmental education in eastern Washington, I went back to
school at Idaho State University where I got my master's degree in biology studying
with the professor I had previously worked under. Taking positions that didn't pay
well, working for Americorps and being a graduate research assistant, allowed me to
gain skills, experience, and education while the economy recovered. When I came out
of graduate school I again worked as a technician, this time for a consulting firm.
After that temporary job, I landed a full time position with the Idaho Department
of Environmental Quality where I worked for five years.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
The environmental field is very competitive and it's unlikely you'll ever make a lot
of money. But that's not why anyone goes into the field. Generally, people love the
outdoors and nature and want to make a living out of it. In this challenging economic
time, it might be the perfect time to go back to school and get more education. A
lot of organizations are unable to hire right now, especially seasonal workers, given
the current economic challenges. Going back to school, will allow the economy time
to recover and put you in a better position at that time. For permanent, full-time
positions in the environmental field it is very valuable to have a master's degree.
Lucy Senesac
Studied: Psychology and Art
Now: Farmer at Sang Lee Farms, Inc.
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In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
When I graduated, all my peers were focused on finding work in the city, pursuing
careers in areas they studied. I decided that I was going to come home to where I
grew up to save money waitressing for 6 months, and then travel and explore what my
heart was telling me to do. I wanted to be outside, in nature, and use my hands. I
feel after years and years of traditional education, I wanted to learn in new ways,
from experience. I decided to be a WWOOF volunteer in New Zealand for 6 months. WWOOF
means "willing workers on organic farms" and I work traded for housing/car/food for
4-6 hours of work a day on 10 different farms/homesteads. I learned SO much about
farming, but also learned a lot about myself and the lifestyle I wanted for myself.
After New Zealand and a summer riding my bike across Europe camping every night, I
was finally broke and went home to get a job. I decided to continue my passion, and
worked at a local organic farm & kitchen. I have been here ever since, and my community
relies on me and my farm to provide especially in this time. Im glad I didn't take
the traditional route, and instead followed my passion and my lifestyle choice.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
I decided that I would put aside my pride and move back home and live with my parents.
I would use my skills as a waitress to make money in a way I knew how, to buffer my
future travel expenses. I think I also learned to use my education in non traditional
ways, but still use the skills I aquired. My education at Skidmore always taught me
that creative thought mattered. And once I could see that running a farm business
used my psychology skills AND my artistic creative skills, I went all in. Everyday
I manage people, and work with customers - I definitely rely on my knowledge about
psychology and the mind. I also create all our signage, designed our website, established
social media accounts and create content, and market to our customers. This is very
much because I am artistic and creative, and I find I can use the farm as a creative
outlet daily.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
Skidmore students are different. We are creative and we think outside the box. I think
if you trust your self to find something that lights your soul on fire and you can
look outside what others are telling you to do, you will find your purpose and navigate
this hard time. You might just find yourself in a different career that is even more
suited for you, like I did. Also, don't be afraid to take a job that you feel is "below"
you after you just got your degree. Everyone is in this place right now, and honestly
it really pays off to start at the bottom and work your way up in the workforce. Skills
in the classroom don't always apply to real life, but you will learn new ones in whatever
field you try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECy6r6yA3wA
https://northforker.com/2019/01/sang-lee-farms-owners-named-organic-farmers-year/
https://slowfoodeastend.org/business-person-of-year-lucy-senesac/
https://suffolktimes.timesreview.com/2014/07/these-young-farmers-will-eat-and-plant-their-veggies/
Matt Shrensel
Studied: Geosciences and Environmental Studies (Science Focus)
Now: Air Quality Monitoring Meteorologist, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality
In what ways has your career path since Skidmore been non-linear? How did your Skidmore
experience inform this path?
My career path since Skidmore started with a lengthy period of job searching, followed
by five years working as a staff geologist at an environmental consulting firm. Five
years later, it had become evident that I didn't enjoy the consulting lifestyle, and
that my career had stalled. I had an opportunity to move to Oregon, which I took,
then spent the next year seeking work. An environmental/political crisis caused Oregon
DEQ to make some hires, an opportunity that I was able to make good on. My Skidmore
experience informed this path by teaching me not to focus too much on just one thing;
though I had a science focus in my studies, I had learned during those studies that
everything is connected, and the political and historical worlds intersect with everything
else, experience that later proved quite helpful in getting me to where I am today.
What kinds of knowledge or skills did you unexpectedly use to navigate a difficult
economic period?
Leaving Skidmore proficient in a large number of employable skills helped a great
deal; employers were interested to see that I had GIS experience, and even more recently
recruiters sometimes asked if I was interested in a GIS analyst job. I'd also had
a lot of experience managing a variety of projects with SkidTV and picked up a lot
of useful skills there as well. My Geosciences professors always stressed the importance
of good writing, and that lesson is reinforced for me almost every day. My first manager
told me that if my resume had a single mistake, he would have tossed it out without
another glance. Strong writing is important in almost every field. You can have great
ideas, but if you're unable to communicate them effectively, they don't matter. Every
employer prefers a candidate who can write well. As my first job was a very technical
position, computer proficiency was expected and mandatory - I was expected to learn
new software, equipment, and procedures on the fly with little or no training. I think
this has only become more true since then; everything continues to move faster. When
I graduated from Skidmore, smart phones were still relatively new. Now everybody carries
an encyclopedia and graphing calculator in their pocket, tools have become more sophisticated,
and employers expect the people operating the tools to be more sophisticated as well.
What insights or advice do you have for others with similar backgrounds, or pursuing
a similar path?
If you're pursuing a technical career, technical excellence is quite important. If
you paid attention to your studies at Skidmore, you should have that technical excellence
- but you need to demonstrate it to your potential employers. Your resume should be
as good as you can possibly make it, tailored to the job you're applying to. The same
applies to a cover letter. People on Skidmore's career advisor network can help. I
asked for help back when I was starting out, and it made a big difference. I continue
to offer that help to Skidmore students who ask for it. Don't write quickly - write
well. Revise and re-revise. If you're considering a career in the environmental industry,
we're entering a severe recession, and likely cuts to government spending and nonprofit
budgets. You may have to be prepared to take a job that isn't exactly what you want
in order to build up useful experience. Unfortunately, this may be even worse than
the situation in 2009, which resulted in a glut of overqualified people competing
for fewer positions. Remember to think broadly, rather than narrowly. Even the specialized
environmental professional needs to know more than just their narrow area of focus.
If you're considering a career in geosciences, take your fundamentals exam for professional
geologist certification in the state of your choice now - if you can pass your exam,
that can demonstrate your knowledge and technical skill to employers. Two skills useful
for any professional these days - writing well, and programming. You don't need to
be a novelist or a programmer, but more jobs than you might think can benefit from
strong writing skills and even basic programming knowledge. Organizations now see
a lot of resumes; the competition has become quite fierce. My workplace had a lot
of PhDs applying for the job I was last promoted from, a position I considered closer
to entry level. It's difficult to stand out from a pack, but you have to find a way.
Networking can be very difficult, but that can help as well. Above all else, be patient.
These will be difficult times. It may be months before you hear anything at all. Don't
be too picky, and don't give up. Ask for help anywhere you can get it. Good luck.